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Speaking of theories, I have one that I don't think has been deliberated upon. I believe what I researched is very interesting, so here's the super-shortened version:
If there was to be a 6th Generation, there would be a small problem (Well, to some people it would be a problem). One of the new Pokemon would have the Pokedex number of 666, and therefore it would never be looked at the same by people who cared. But, see, there's ALREADY more than 666 Pokemon. I mean Formes; Pokemon with different stats, Types, and appearances that aren't counted as a Pokedex number. I won't put the list here for space purposes, but here's the what it adds up to.
There are 70 Pokemon unrepresented with their own Pokedex number. This, with the 649 species, makes 719. The difference of 719 and 666(therefore the number we must subtract from 649) is 53. 649 - 53 = 596. But there is one Pokemon of the 70 uncounted that comes after the Pokedex Number 596(Meloetta). So go back one. 595. The real #666 is the Pokedex number 595. Joltik.
This theory of mine had been flawed previously, as I had forgotten some of the alternate Formes and appearances. But I'm sure sure it's accurate now.
I don't mean this to be a serious condemning of Joltik, as he's one of my very favorite from the 5th Gen, but simply an interesting thought I had that I took the time to factor mathematically. This almost makes me want to write some sort of story about an evil Joltik now, though. *spooky laugh* Additionally, I do not mean to offend anyone who would take offense from the subject.
I apologize for having such a large post. If you want a list of the 70 aforementioned 'uncounted Pokemon', you may e-mail me for it. I wanted to condense my theory as much as possible. I can also include the non-condensed math equation I did, if you think I made a mistake.
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My next essay might be one tackling the Venonat and Butterfree connection, actually :P
Butterfree, do not go here:
https://bogleech.com/pokemon/p048venonat
Jirachi!
That's what the Espeon and Umbreon page is for!
I also like the messages now showing the verification Pokemon. (lets go scyther!)
Thank you so much for making this! BTW, do you know any tips for getting happiness up on my Eevee in Silver?
This was a beautiful essay. The first two generation of Pokemon had a certain magic to them; not just because we were children, but also because the internet had not yet evolved into its modern form and the games were so flimsily coded. Some very strange things could happen while a kid was simply playing the game, and lead to amazing stories like this. I really loved reading this one. So long, Jolteon. Your memory will live on.
I believe Azurill was the only one, due to the specific unique quirk of having a different gender ratio from its evolved form.
Are there any species besides Azurill that can change gender when they evolve? Or any oversights/bugs that would cause a Pokémon’s gender to change? It’d be fun to make a party of the little guys XD
Happy to help catch that bug in the guestbook! I was wondering why the page 2 link did that.
Also I'm commenting to build up a party, cool feature!
No, this was a first turn move.
As I said, I know this. However, this says nothing about why this decision was made, only that it was stated in this book. For all we know off that snippet, Game Freak gave them some notes that said this because they were already figuring it worked like that - in fact, that’s what I’m kind of inclined to assume by default, since it seems odd a guidebook would just make up something fairly random and counterintuitive like that out of nowhere, and if the guide had made it up out of nowhere without consulting Game Freak, it seems unlikely Game Freak would have just been like, “Oh, welp, this guidebook made this up out of nowhere, guess we have to do it this way now.” The mere existence of a statement that Nidorina and Nidoqueen can’t have eggs in the guidebook is not evidence of why that decision was made or by whom one way or the other.
Copied it straight from Bulbapedia.
"Nidorina and Nidoqueen's inability to lay Eggs was established by Japanese media before breeding became a game mechanic.
[1]Pocket Monsters Encyclopedia: 「ニドラン♀の進化形だが、ニドリーナになると、卵を産む能力はなくなる。」 ("It is the evolved form of Nidoran♀, but upon becoming Nidorina, has lost the ability to lay Eggs.")
[2]ポケットモンスター公式ファンブック Official Fan Book of Pocket Monsters: 「ニドラン♀の進化形だが、卵は産めない。」 ("It is the evolved form of Nidoran♀, but it cannot lay Eggs.")"
thank you very much for taking the time to write this, i consulted it often over the last couple days as i finished up firered with a friend of mine. :)
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